CG –  Do you have a goal that you want to reach with your band or any sort of direction?

Glen – Musically the goal will shift. I was talking with Dan from Danielson, and we were both saying its fun to approach every album like it was your first album. Like it's a brand new band or something. Musically I'm really into that. I'm into keeping it as sharp creatively as I possibly can. You know this is another thing – I spent a week out with Danielson Famile helping them work on their record, so we got to talk about this stuff a lot. In spiritual terms, I really think what we're suppose to do is just do what we do in creative terms, and really try and… you know in the situations Jesus said the apostles would get into, He said you're going to get into these situations and don't worry about what you're going to say because you're going to open your mouth and the Spirit's going to come out. So we want to set up an environment in our recorded music and in our live music, where we're worshipping, where we're speaking in encouragement and truth, in psalms, hymns and spiritual songs in our music, but with the idea of really really communicating what the Holy Spirit wants to communicate. I think it's a cool thing because I think for a long time in the Christian community the idea has been to use the arts as a vehicle to reach people.  Kind like 'here's the vehicle, and then we fly the flag on top of it.'  I really see that the message can be integral to what you do creatively." I don't know if that makes sense…

CG – That's cool, because I think a lot of Christian bands don't have an aim for their message. They'll sing their cool songs, they'll sing their Christian songs, but they don't plan on really impacting anybody or changing things culturally. Because a lot of music changes the culture. Secular bands are really good at that. I was just wondering how you as an individual or as a group feel about things like that. Do you hope to change things?

Glen – You know why secular music does that, and any good art will do that, is because when people are able to demonstrate a new way of communicating and thinking, its inspiring to people. There's always energy that goes into that, and there's always creative force that goes into that, and the Holy Spirit is the source of all creation. But then satan will get his hands and he'll twist stuff, and he'll take the creative mark of the Spirit and fuel it with destructive energy, or self-destructive. People are inspired by that. By the same token if the Holy Spirit is able to speak through you in your words AND in your art, in your music, and people recognize that and there's nothing getting in the way in terms of ego, nothing getting in the way in terms of satan being able to get his hands on it, then that's inspiring to people because they see not only the song or the painting or the film, they see a new way of thinking and communicating what they feel. So that's really what I see doing artistically.

CG – Are you touring?

Glen – We're playing a lot with Five Iron and Filmore. I play with them for a few days and then fly home and try to work a lot… So I'm balancing that.

CG – What kind of work do you do?

Glen – I actually make music for commercials.

CG – Any we know?

Glen – Mainly its been local and regional stuff, but one national commercial I did was this thing for American Greetings Cards and it only aired on Nick at Nite, called the "bubble gum crew" or something like that. We just worked on Nike for six weeks solid. We demoed and demoed and demoed, and they loved us and gave us bonuses. But they actually ended up using some pre-recorded music. They pick good music.

CG – Did you say where you're from?

Glen – San Diego

CG – Ok well I appreciate it, I think that's good. That was a lot… Well, not a lot – enough.

Glen – Yeah, I blabbered.

CG – No, it was good. I like what you had to say; I think its important and hope people read it.