NOIZE: First of all, who would you say are some of
the musical groups who have influenced the music of
Casting Crowns?
HALL: The cool thing is, we listen to a wide variety
of music. On the rock side we really like Third Day,
Michael Tait, Toby Mac, Switchfoot, Delirious, Stephen
Curtis Chapman, Jars of Clay and Caedmon’s Call, as
well as KJ52 and other stuff on the rap and hip-hop
side. I only began listening to Christian music about
8-9 years ago, but I’ve got plenty to listen to on
this side!
NOIZE: What did you listen to 8-9 years ago?
HALL: Eight or nine years ago it was U2. Right around
that time the classic rock stations were starting, so
I really got into Pink Floyd and Foreigner. Then I
went over to the Euro side, with Depeche Mode and The
Smiths and Sting. I’ll get on a CD for a month and
then I’ll get on another one, and I never really
have one favorite.
NOIZE: How would you describe the name of your band
to a person who wouldn’t claim to be a Christian?
HALL: I’d want to draw a picture of the statement
that sooner or later, in a believer’s life, every
little kingdom has to fall down and take its place
behind our walk and our relationship with Jesus.
It’s the idea of building little castles in the
sand—all the little crowns we may think are
important have to come in second and third and fourth
and fifth. And on the other side of all the awards
that will come our way (in Heaven), they’re all
going to pale when we do see Jesus. They’re going to
fall down as well.
NOIZE: Describe the look and a feel of a Casting
Crowns show.
HALL: Well, we’re definitely not rock stars, so
we’re very comfortable and very transparent. We
share a lot about how our songs came about, and we
share a lot about what God’s teaching us. We share
how we’ve failed and about where we see God speaking
to the church right now. We’re not going around and
singing ABOUT the church—we’re IN the church. The
main message you’d hear at one of our shows is the
fact that a lot of us, as really young believers, were
fooled into thinking that religion was all there was
to it. But a relationship and a walk with Jesus will
go home with people when the concert’s over. Our
songs will not go home with you after a show or to
school with you on Monday, but you have to have your
own walk with Jesus. Bands will come and go, and as
cool as our band might be, the most we’ll ever do is
pour water on a seed that someone else—some Sunday
School teacher or pastor—watered in the church.
We’re out there to complement what the church is
doing.
NOIZE: Your album seems to be made up of two parts,
with the first half being teaching and the second half
being of the worship variety. Was that intended?
HALL: I’m not sure how the order of the songs on our
album came about, and I think it was more of a musical
flow. We’re rookies at this, and the whole process
of putting together the album moved so fast. When you
come to one of our concerts, though, we’re going to
do a lot of worship music, because to me worship is a
first step to building a relationship out of a
religion. Worship is prayer, and prayer is
conversation, and conversation is how friendships
start.
NOIZE: If you could change anything about the
album, is there anything you’d do differently?
HALL: I probably would have had the song “Glory”
first, so we could start off with a worship song. I
always thought it funny in the flow that the CD starts
out with “What If His People Prayed,” but I
don’t think about it too much.
NOIZE: Casting Crowns has been called “the
fastest-selling new artist of 2003 and 2004.” Within
the Christian music industry, is there such a thing as
stardom?
HALL: We’re in Atlanta, so we’re pretty removed
from that and there’s not a lot of hype about it
here. We don’t really need to hear that stuff
either, not because I’m above it but I do know
myself and I’d get caught up in it. I need to keep
my focus where it needs to be with my students, so
it’s really neat being more removed from the hype.
NOIZE: Do you plan to stay in Atlanta?
HALL: Oh yeah, I’m staying in student ministries and
I’m staying in Atlanta. The band only travels on
Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays, and I’m still
full-time in the church. Things are moving very well,
and I really don’t really feel a calling to be out
of the church in the capacity I’m in. I really have
a burden for the church.
NOIZE: Tell us about what you do in the church
there in Atlanta.
HALL: I’m youth pastor for 6th-12th grades at
Eagle’s Landing First Baptist Church. I’ve been
here for two years, and we’ve really built a strong
ministry with four parts. Our Wednesday-night ministry
is called Refuge, and it’s the front door to our
student ministries. That follows down into our Faith
ministry, which is where our outreach teams encourage
students to do more. Our third ministry is our Bible
studies on Sunday morning, Discipleship, and from
there we try to move students out into Ministry.
NOIZE: What’s the response of your students been
like to the success of the band?
HALL: Well, we don’t play songs like “If We Are
the Body” too much at Refuge, because I think
they’ve heard it a few times! But there’s a ton of
excitement there. We did our CD release party here,
where there were probably 2,300 people in our
2,100-seat auditorium. It’s a young church, and
everyone has been very supportive. It’s like Casting
Crowns is an arm of our church, and it’s been
accepted well.
NOIZE: Within the next five years, what trends do
you see on the horizon when it comes to working with
youth at the root level, and how are you preparing for
those trends?
HALL: For me, I think that students reach students.
Trends come and go, and there will be a “new way”
to do student ministry about every 2-3 years. But if
you can disciple a student and get enough adult
leaders who can do one-on-one or small groups with
students, I don’t think there’s another model. If
I can pour into 10 adults who can pour into 10
students each who can then pour into 10 other students
each, that’s discipleship! The church may be way
behind when it comes to culture, but if they can just
turn out people who love people and don’t judge
people, we can’t build enough church buildings for
that many people.
NOIZE: And finally if you had the attention of the
youth of America for 20 seconds, what would you tell
them?
HALL: I would tell them that God is not a book, and
that Jesus is not an idea or a lesson in your Sunday
School curriculum. He’s a person, and a person can
have a friendship with you. He loves you in a way
that’s unconditional—the kind of love that many
students don’t know. It’s the value of having a
relationship over having a set of goals to live by or
a notebook of cool little spiritual nuggets. We need
to move away from “churchiness” to just a
friendship with Jesus. I know you can have that with
Jesus, because I was just with Him this morning!
~The Noize
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